Are computer extended warranties worth it?

Are extended warranties for computers really worth the money?

- Janice

This question is one of the most common that I have fielded over the years that has two potential answers: Yes and No!

Much like any "insurance" policy, you only get value from it if you have to use it, so understanding what the exposure risks are for what you are buying before you make your decision is very helpful.

For instance, most desktop computers (with the exception of the non-standard, all-in-one units or those built by Apple) use common parts that are readily available and very competitively priced from hundreds of sources.

Many of the individual parts in a standard desktop computer can be replaced for less than most desktop computer extended warranties (especially if you are comfortable swapping parts yourself). In most cases, unless you have multiple failures during the warranty period, you may not recoup the cost of the extended warranty.

When it comes to laptop computers, the scenario is quite different. Virtually every laptop made is a proprietary design, so you have only one source for most replacement parts; the original manufacturer.

The laws of supply and demand are in full effect with laptops which causes most replacement parts for a laptop to be higher than most extended warranties (especially when it comes to the screen or motherboard).

There are several different types of warranties that you can buy for a laptop, including some that are called "no fault" which means even if you drop it (which is very common), you are covered. Once again, you must weigh the cost of the coverage with the potential odds that you will need the coverage.

Road warriors and college students that are constantly lugging their portable computers around have a much higher likelihood of experiencing a "kinetic" event that could render the laptop useless, so coverage may make sense.

For those that mainly use their laptop around the house and on the occasional family vacation, your exposure to the additional risks are lessened, therefore it may be a closer call.

The bottom line is to make sure you understand what is covered and what is not. The exclamation of "but I thought my extended warranty covered that" is all too common because the purchaser did not look at the exclusions before making the decision.

In computers especially, the vast majority of service issues have nothing to do with the hardware, which is generally the only thing that is covered by many extended warranties. Common problems like virus and spyware infections, operating system corruption, miscommunication of devices or inability to get something to function the way you expected it to are expressly not covered by the extended warranty.

Understanding that all "insurance" products must make the supplier a profit or they wouldn't do it, you can bet that the "house" has the advantage when it comes to extended warranties (just ask any employee that has ever worked at any of those big box electronics stores).

If you ever get the chance to chat with an individual whose responsibility it is to process extended warranty claims in the computer world, you will likely hear that more claims are denied than approved, mainly because the purchaser of the warranty didn't really understand what they bought.

A final piece of advice: don't take any salesman's word on what is covered and excluded by an extended warranty. Get it in writing and review it in detail before making a decision. Rarely is the person that is selling you the warranty the same person that is responsible for processing it.

The person selling the extended warranty generally gets a commission or has a quota they must meet and knows that by the time you figure out that it wasn't quite what they represented, it is too late for you so "buyer beware"!


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As a former AppleCare manager, I can tell you that the majority of calls to our support center were software related, and most of the time it is not even a bug or a technical issue, but rather a user issue.

Apple is one of the few computer makers (if not the only one) to provide such software support and that basically comes from the fact that the OS and the hardware are designed by the same company, and it avoids the consumer the usual back-and-forth between OS makers (such as Microsoft) support center and PC support centers, who usually blame the other party when problems arise.

People are usually concerned by hardware failures, but these usually happen during the first year, and as such are covered by the standard warranty, but most of all, they are quite rare, especially compared to software problems. And I think that's were AppleCare differentiates itself from its competitors.
# Posted By Fabien de Serres | 12/13/08 5:08 PM
You didn't mention the new warranties that are voided if you deinstall vista. Also there are warranties that if you get into your computer at all, it voids them. There is a rumor going around that some bios' like Amibios is making chips that are designed to only run vista. Of course this centers around the fact that Vista, Intel and Card Manufacturers like NVidia need to cooperate to protect hollywood movies and music from be intercepted on the motherboard by encrypting the signals. I'm wondering if you ran into any of these cases. I bought a laptop, which you can find on the web by searching for "toshiba sucks" literally, I got about 33,000 hits on youtube from it. Anyhow, I remember that I got the laptop warranty from office depot, and it required as part of the warranty that I not deinstall the operating system, otherwise the warranty would be voided, because part of the warranty was installing the waranty software on vista, which I did.. But I subsequently deinstalled Vista because it didn't permit me to install some vital software for my work.. So I tried to deinstall Vista to get XP installed, which is what I used previously. Going to Toshiba's site, I was not able to find XP drivers, but I was unable to get Vista reinstalled because I had an OEM license of Vista and it would require a OEM installer disk.. I got the Vista upgrade, but it would void my copy of XP if I used it.. This was not the case in the upgrade from 98 to XP where the 98 disk was only used for verification. Deciding that I couldn't use XP without adequate drivers (which was the case at the time) and that I didn't want to go to Vista if it was going to void my XP license.. I tried Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop, and am now running 8.04. I probably voided my warranty, but I've had success with Ubuntu and I've left Microsoft and their silly measures to avoid piracy and control consumer rights behind.

BTW, I've got many videos on youtube with the username "rofthorax" where I demonstrate my progress, which includes playing games like "Left 4 Dead" in wine on my desktop Ubuntu machine. I also edit video with blender 3D, which has an excellent non-destructive video editor in it.

Sidenote, I've replaced the keyboard and screen on my Thinkpad 600X. If youa re looking for a cheap laptop, the thinkpads are some of the most prevalent on ebay and are easy to find parts for as some people make money from refurbishing thinkpads on ebay. Also Thinkpads are some of the most linux compatible laptops. But since IBM sold to lenovo, you will not find much support from lenovo to linux. However Dell sells a mini laptop with Ubuntu 8.04 on it for 300 dollars. I've heard that the CEO of Dell uses Ubuntu. I bought a desktop machine on ebay from someone as was able to get Dell to transfer the waranty to me.

So bottom line, it's really hard to know what your rights are in these days as it seems Microsoft and Intel are trying to close the PC platform (after 30 years of being an open platform), don't get software based warranty extension services especially if they are dependent on your operating system. Don't get vista if you can help it, it's limited by the number of times it can be reinstalled, whereas XP is not. Older laptops like thinkpads tend to be quite common on ebay, and if you are looking for a cheap laptop with many parts, search ebay for both (look for common laptops, and batteries for them, screens, keyboards, motherboards and other such thing, you may find someone nearby who can install the parts for you if you get a lemon from ebay). Also, consider Dell, they offer top notch service, warranties, onsite warranty service (I've bought two desktops,m eight years apart, and Dell replaced mother boards on both, on-site).
# Posted By Kiernan Holland | 12/13/08 7:01 PM
BTW, I read the other guys comment about apple.. It's true, but I don't usually consider the mac's as an open platform as they always contain the same parts.. It limits the number of errors that someone can run into when using a computer, but it also limits their choices. I think Intel and Microsoft are jealous of Apple's success with it's line, but if they follow suit, we may lose an open platform which the PC platform is. If it came down to playing blu-rays, I'd get a PS3, why should I sacrifice my open PC platform for a closed "walled garden" like the Apple platform or Vista.

BTW, when I was working in the dot-coms, we would have our website tested by a focus group and in the tests, they found that new users would spend more time trying to figure out how to use the computer before ever getting on the website to test it. Also considering the success of the iPhones and iPod's.. It says that a major portion of the computer users are wanting utility of a limited device, like an mp3 player, a video game machine, remote control, etc.. Those who actually use the computer as a multi-option platform are becoming less and less.

I also heard from a friend the other day that American children are way behind technologically than children from other countries, such as south korea and germany. I would personally attribute this to the number of ease of use technologies that don't permit people to reuse resources like older computers. I'd wonder how many computers are discarded in other countries as compared to those in America. Maybe users need more hand-holding, or maybe we need to become more aware of what computers are and learn to use them, it may be a matter of protecting America from information attacks. Of course, if you feel you don't need a computer, then you shouldn't really get a computer. I know someone who uses computers are work but don't have any technology at home, even TV's, and they prefer it.
# Posted By Kiernan Holland | 12/13/08 7:21 PM
I paid over 1100 dollars for a HP. Puchased the extended warranty. Installed the
vista when it came in the mail. Computer crashes 18 days out of warrant
I have a laptop of junk, still owing several hundred dollars. HP offered to fix,
if I wanted to buy new extended warranty for 148 dollars.
Two things I have learned to live without, a car payment and a computer payment.
# Posted By scot henry | 12/15/08 2:53 PM
Great Advice!! As a Technology Consultant, and prior senior laptop tech for a major "tough" computer manufactor, your advice couldn't be more in check. Oh so many times I would have loved to talk to potential buyers about the same advice we were bound ot the hand that fed us... My only question is what audio/video are you using for the conf? Its so darn clear- it can't be a generic webcam.

Lates- Bridger~
# Posted By Bridger | 12/15/08 11:05 PM
Coming from a person that is at the forfront of computer users...both intelligent and not....(i'm a geeks squad agent at best buy)...and unlike what the data doctor said about commission on warranties...that's not the case at best buy...we don't make a scrap of commission.

#1. best buy has warranties that cover software and hardware...they are just a little costly for the black tie premium protection plan.
#2. If your new $500.00 computer suffers a dead motherboard ..you will shell out at least $800.00 to get that fixed
#3 Your battery generally costs about 150 - 350 (depending ont he cell content)...which gets replaced for free at best buy
#4. Your ac adapter costs around 150 - 250...gets replaced for free at best buy
#5. if you have kids...and they spill, stand, sit on the screen...a cracked screen cost about 400 + labor (300) to replace...included in the black tie premium protection plan.
#6. the highest problem that i see on nearly a daily basis is a dc jack broken. that is the little power pin inside of the laptop that connects the ac adaptor to the motherboard (which goes and charges the laptop battery and power the laptop). If that is broken to a certain extent it can end up costing the price of a new motherboard.

all in all 350 (for a 3 year accidental damage (software coverage) warranty) can easily save you $1,000's of dollars.

mind you...no one is responsible for your data but yourself. That's why it is key that you get some sort of back up device (flash drive, external hard drive) to make sure that you have another copy of your most precious data somewhere else. I always tell my customers that the most dangerous place to keep your data is on your laptop hard drive....because if a virus infests you, if vista or xp decide to fart on you, then you restoring your computer won't be a problem if you know that your data is definately somewhere else safe.
# Posted By Charese Williams | 12/16/08 10:09 AM
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